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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Long Term Care Insurance

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Long Term Care Insurance

 

One thing is obvious, Insurance companies are the big dogs in our country. You have to buy it  health, auto, home, life etc.... Probable should have an insurance fund  in the TSP.

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On Apr 29, 2016 10:56 AM, "Julie Julie juliec22003@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy]" <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on LTC.  Every time I do the math it makes more sense to invest the money I would be using for premiums.  


 

However, most people are getting priced out of LTCI and there are fewer companies offering it.

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

 

It's interesting playing with the numbers with amortizations schedules on sites such as http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/mortgages/amortization-calculator.aspx. When I was on that site a few months ago, it indicated that if I pay $400 more per month, I would knock of 10 years from the 30 year mortgage and total interest paid went from $221k to $144k on my $337k loan. Even though that's huge savings, I wouldn't pay extra on the mortgage unless I was able to max the TSP.

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On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Nelish nelish@gmail.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Another option for you to consider paying more towards principle. 

For example if you mortgage is $1,200.00 a month divide that by 12 months in a year. This give you $100.00 add that to your mortgage. This gives you $1,300 a month payment and will reduce your loan amount. 

Here is a like which provides much more detail:

Thanks 


On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, sticksandstones66@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Thanks for your advice. I'm starting to see that its nice to have your house paid off , but there are always other options.


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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

 

I'm no financial expert, but I expect that apart from one of those special TSP Home Buying Loans to, say, make the 20% down payment to avoid having to pay mortgage insurance (which only helps the bankers sleep well at night), borrowing from one's TSP to pay off one's mortgage early, doesn't really seem to me like a smart move, barring health or other extraordinary factors, because:

-- You would be taking money with a potential for growth and placing it into a less "fungible" asset. Some folks call a house a "dead asset" for a reason. (It's not like any "Zestimate" or other supposed growth in your home value is paying directly into your checking account, or towards your mortgage principal, is it? Apart from some "reverse mortgage" or similar, the only way you'd be able to "cash in" might be an equity loan, which is solidly in that column with all the red ink).

-- You would miss out on any interest deduction you might enjoy in your taxes.

That said, if you've still got a long row to hoe with a 30 year note dangling out there long beyond your hoped for retirement date, you might do well to refinance now, with rates still pretty damned low, to get into a 15 year mortgage (which typically offers lower rates) , and then do two things: arrange biweekly payments (gives you an extra payment per annum) and arrange to pay a little extra every 2 weeks towards principal. This is how we basically turned a 15 year mortgage into about a 12 year one.

We actually did do one of those TSP Home Buyer loans to make the nut on a good down payment (to dodge that previously-mentioned PMI), and it just so happened that the markets then tanked the following month, so I guess much of that $45K over ten years, with 3% paid back to MYSELF into my TSP, worked out to be "free money". That'll be paid off next Spring, after which I'll likely plow much of that bi-weekly payment into the TSP directly myself.

I hope this helps...Like I said, just paying off the house with your TSP funds seems a bit to me like slaughtering Ol' Bessie the milk cow to have a quick cheeseburger, that'll only give you a good poop in the end.

"Mike Tucker tuckerm83@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy]" <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>Agreed - this is a great way to pay off your mortgage sooner, and is what my wife and I are doing now in anticipation of retirement in 10-12 years.
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>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Nelish nelish@gmail.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Another option for you to consider paying more towards principle.
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>> For example if you mortgage is $1,200.00 a month divide that by 12 months in a year. This give you $100.00 add that to your mortgage. This gives you $1,300 a month payment and will reduce your loan amount.
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>> Here is a like which provides much more detail:
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>> http://www.mtgprofessor.com/calculators/Calculator2a.html
>> Thanks
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>>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, sticksandstones66@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> Thanks for your advice. I'm starting to see that its nice to have your house paid off , but there are always other options.
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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

 

Agreed - this is a great way to pay off your mortgage sooner, and is what my wife and I are doing now in anticipation of retirement in 10-12 years.

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On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Nelish nelish@gmail.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Another option for you to consider paying more towards principle. 

For example if you mortgage is $1,200.00 a month divide that by 12 months in a year. This give you $100.00 add that to your mortgage. This gives you $1,300 a month payment and will reduce your loan amount. 

Here is a like which provides much more detail:

Thanks 


On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, sticksandstones66@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Thanks for your advice. I'm starting to see that its nice to have your house paid off , but there are always other options.

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

 

Another option for you to consider paying more towards principle. 

For example if you mortgage is $1,200.00 a month divide that by 12 months in a year. This give you $100.00 add that to your mortgage. This gives you $1,300 a month payment and will reduce your loan amount. 

Here is a like which provides much more detail:

Thanks 


On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, sticksandstones66@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Thanks for your advice. I'm starting to see that its nice to have your house paid off , but there are always other options.

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

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Thanks for your advice. I'm starting to see that its nice to have your house paid off , but there are always other options.

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

 

I would advise against it. My main reason would be that if you decide to leave your job, by choice or otherwise, that loan would be due in full. I've known several people who have taken tsp loans successfully and would recommend them, but I would rather not risk my retirement fund for that reason. Have you ran the numbers to see if you could pay it off early by refinancing and/or paying extra every month? 



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On Friday, April 29, 2016, 3:15 PM, sticksandstones66@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

My house probably wont be paid off at retirement. Its small  manageable home. The mortgage payment is not big and its competitive with an apartment. This is probably a very general question that requires more information but what advice would anyone have using a portion of my TSP to pay off my home?

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

 

You will probably make more money on the TSP investment than you are paying mortgage interest and would  lose tax benefit from the mortgage. It all depends on amounts of money and time, though. Keep in mind that what you take out of TSP is taxed as income, too.  I chose to stay invested rather than pay off mortgage for those reasons.


On Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 1:15 PM sticksandstones66@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

My house probably wont be paid off at retirement. Its small  manageable home. The mortgage payment is not big and its competitive with an apartment. This is probably a very general question that requires more information but what advice would anyone have using a portion of my TSP to pay off my home?

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[TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

[TSP_Strategy] Use portion of TSP to pay off home?

 

My house probably wont be paid off at retirement. Its small  manageable home. The mortgage payment is not big and its competitive with an apartment. This is probably a very general question that requires more information but what advice would anyone have using a portion of my TSP to pay off my home?

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[TSP_Strategy] Fixed Income Sector Performance

[TSP_Strategy] Fixed Income Sector Performance

 

Charts of the Week

Fixed Income Sector Performance (Total Return as of 3/31/16)

Chart of the Week for April 29, 2016 - May 5, 2016

Nine of the eleven fixed income sectors posted positive returns in the twelve month period ended March 31, 2016. Similarly, ten of the eleven sectors rose in the twelve month period ended March 31, 2015.

The fixed income market includes many different types of securities, and their performance can vary substantially among these types. The chart above compares the performance of eleven major fixed income sectors for the one-year periods ended March 31, 2016 ("current year"-dark blue bars above) and March 31, 2015 ("prior year"-light blue bars above). Nine of the eleven fixed income sectors produced positive returns for the current year. Similarly, ten of the eleven sectors rose in the prior year.

The Federal Open Market Committee ("FOMC") of the U.S. Federal Reserve increased the target rate range for the federal funds rate in December 2015, and there has been much speculation about subsequent increases. However, through the FOMC March 2016 meeting there has not been another increase. Over the current year, interest rates generally fell prior to the FOMC announcement, rose slightly after the announcement, and fell during the first quarter of 2016.

Global led in current year performance (4.57%), rebounding from its negative return of the prior year (-3.66%), helped by increased bond purchasing in Europe as part of their central bank quantitative easing plan. Emerging Markets also had a positive return (3.49%) in the current year, as investors were active in buying newly issued sovereign and corporate debt in several countries. For U.S sectors, Municipal had the best return (3.98%), followed by Long-Term Government (2.80%) and Mortgage-Backed Securities (2.43%). Long-Term Corporate (-1.34%) and High Yield (-3.69%) both reported negative returns in the current year after positive returns in the prior year, as Long-Term Corporate yields began to rise in the prior year in anticipation of an FOMC increase, and High Yield bonds were impacted by the effect of lower oil pries on energy issuers, many of which issue High Yield Bonds.

Performance fluctuates over time and returns depend in part on the market environment, which is hard to predict. Changes in both actual and expected interest and inflation rates can materially impact fixed income investments. Also, investors should note that even U.S. Government securities can decline in value and investing in sectors such as High Yield or Emerging Markets involve additional risk.

When making investment decisions, prudent investors should invest based on their own circumstances, taking into consideration their goals, investment experience, time horizon, and risk tolerance.


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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Long Term Care Insurance

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Long Term Care Insurance

 

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Long Term Care is a no additional charge apart of my Whole Life insurance policy w/ www.AAFMAA.com

Army Air Force Mutual Aid Association (open to all military services Active Duty)
- there are some registration restrictions for veterans based on their state. 

The LTC feature - I am not sure if the AAFMA plan is good or bad in comparison to others although it is a feature at no additional charge and believe it is administered in house.  



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On Apr 29, 2016, at 13:43, KC Will kcwill64114@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

You take your chance when you buy insurance. If you wait until you're 10 years older, you might suffer a tragedy before that time and have no insurance. That's how the game works. 


Very few places now sell it outside the government. From what I read, there was not enough actuarial data when this was first introduced and some companies lost money because they set their premiums too low. 

It's a smart idea to have it. Most of the time insurance is something you buy but hope never to use. But if you plan to get older then you're likely to need this insurance. 

As for a company trying to get out of paying, that would be fraud and not a reason to avoid insurance. 

What some companies now offer is a life insurance policy that has a provision for long term care. That way if you don't use it, you'll still leave something for your beneficiaries. That product came out after I purchased LTC and the salesman I spoke to actually advised me to stick with what I had.




 

I bought it as a new Fed based on hearing the consumer advocate Clark Howard talk about the importance of Long Term Care Insurance. You can see his guide about Long Term Care Insurance at http://www.clarkhoward.com/long-term-care-insurance-honor-roll .

The only mistake I made was that I probably purchased it too early. I purchased it at 36. The premium were pretty low, but I probably could of waited until my late 40s to start purchasing it without the price going up much.

Also, from what I remember reading in the Unofficial FERS guide, you can probably find better or cheaper options outside of FLTCIP if you shop around.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Jim Wright jim_wright_2001@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I have known only 3 or 4 people that have actually bought it. And do you really know the insurance will pay when you need it?

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On Apr 29, 2016, at 10:56 AM, "Julie Julie juliec22003@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy]" <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on LTC.  Every time I do the math it makes more sense to invest the money I would be using for premiums.  


 

However, most people are getting priced out of LTCI and there are fewer companies offering it.


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