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[TSP_Strategy] US Personal Savings Rate

[TSP_Strategy] US Personal Savings Rate

 


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U.S. Personal Savings Rate

Chart of the Week for September 27, 2019 - October 3, 2019

The U.S. Personal Savings Rate is above its ten year average.

"The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis publishes a monthly measure of the change in Personal Saving, which is defined as the percentage of disposable income individuals save instead of spend. It is calculated as the amount of money left over after individuals spend money and pay taxes. The chart above shows the monthly savings rate for the last three years ended July 2019.

The July savings rate of 7.7% was down slightly from the June rate of 8.0%, but it remains above the ten year average of 7.2%. The recent highs of 8.8% in February 2019 and December 2018 were the highest savings rate since 2012. Economists note that the savings rate has been increasing during the current economic expansion, not declining as in past expansionary periods. Economists also point to the recent tax cut effective in 2018 as one factor, as well as caution amongst consumers who still remember the downturn from 2007-2009, and an aging population preparing for retirement. While saving instead of spending may be positive for individuals, it is not positive for the overall economy that heavily depends on consumer spending."

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] Re: Thought on a move to C at this point?

Re: [TSP_Strategy] Re: Thought on a move to C at this point?

 

Trending continues mid-day

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

 

Thanks!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:31 PM JOHN N jw.nelson64@gmail.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

S Fund 100%

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 5:26 PM Jesus Cordova jesusymartha1@gmail.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Good afternoon. Sorry, I've been off the grid for a while. Still good into the S fund?

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

 

S Fund 100%

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 5:26 PM Jesus Cordova jesusymartha1@gmail.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Good afternoon. Sorry, I've been off the grid for a while. Still good into the S fund?

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

 

Good afternoon. Sorry, I've been off the grid for a while. Still good into the S fund?

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] G Fund

Re: [TSP_Strategy] G Fund

 

Sorry all.... sent to wrong Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2019, at 11:14, Chris Hunt nittneylions@hotmail.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Paul,

Hope things are well with you and getting settled in.  We are enjoying family time in the U.S.  Aaron got the job at CNRMC (GS-15).  I also am being offered that position in Singapore.  Will be entering into negotiations next week.

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On Sep 12, 2019, at 14:29, Paul Ditch pkditch@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Thank you!

On Thursday, September 12, 2019, 03:26:37 PM EDT, sarah_oz@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

I see no reason other than fear of the unknown and fear of certain year's previous seasonality for moving to G.


Economically, China is moving in the right direction.  US is moving in the right direction.  European interest rates are moving in the right direction.  So, no, I don't see a reason to move to the G fund at this time.

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] G Fund

Re: [TSP_Strategy] G Fund

 

Paul,

Hope things are well with you and getting settled in.  We are enjoying family time in the U.S.  Aaron got the job at CNRMC (GS-15).  I also am being offered that position in Singapore.  Will be entering into negotiations next week.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2019, at 14:29, Paul Ditch pkditch@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Thank you!

On Thursday, September 12, 2019, 03:26:37 PM EDT, sarah_oz@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

I see no reason other than fear of the unknown and fear of certain year's previous seasonality for moving to G.


Economically, China is moving in the right direction.  US is moving in the right direction.  European interest rates are moving in the right direction.  So, no, I don't see a reason to move to the G fund at this time.

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[TSP_Strategy] US Housing Starts

[TSP_Strategy] US Housing Starts

 


Charts of the Week

U.S. Housing Starts

Chart of the Week for September 20, 2019 - September 26, 2019

U.S. Housing Starts reached a 12-year high in August 2019

The U.S. Census Bureau publishes a monthly measure of New Residential Construction, commonly known as Housing Starts. The Census Bureau surveys local permit issuing authorities as well as homebuilders to gather their data. The chart above shows the monthly total of Housing Starts from August 2018 through August 2019.

Housing Starts reached a 12-year high of 1.364 million units in August 2019, well above the consensus estimate and a year-over-year increase of 6.6% from August 2018. Both starts and permits increased in August. Economists note that low mortgage rates, a strong labor market, and a lack of existing housing inventory all contributed to the strong report for August. Economists also note this could be a good sign for Gross Domestic Product (GDP), since Housing Starts haven't been contributing to GDP since the end of 2017, and this may be an indicator of a turnaround in the data.

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[TSP_Strategy] Paying Your Way to a Bigger Benefit

[TSP_Strategy] Paying Your Way to a Bigger Benefit

 


Paying Your Way to a Bigger Benefit

September 19, 2019

In the federal retirement world, few things raise more questions and cause more confusion than service credit deposits. These are payments employees can make to their retirement system to receive credit in their retirement benefit for creditable service (military or civilian) during which retirement deductions weren't withheld from their pay, or were withheld and then refunded.

There are different rules for making such deposits depending on whether you're covered under the Civil Service Retirement System or the Federal Employees Retirement System

Why make a service credit deposit? Because it can make a big difference in the retirement annuity check you get every month. The catch? The process can get complicated and take time.

Let's look at a story that "Mike," a civilian employee under CSRS, recently shared with me about making a military service credit deposit through his agency. (Deposits for civilian service are made to the Office of Personnel Management.)

Mike made a one-time military deposit of $26,000 that will result in an increase in his CSRS retirement of $19,850 per year. Most military deposits are not this large. Mike had a great deal of military service and had to pay interest that was due over the years of his civilian federal career.

It will take Mike a little over a year of receiving the military service credit in his retirement to recover his investment. Then he'll continue to get nearly $20,000 added annually to his benefit for the rest of his life—with cost of living adjustments. 

The trick is that getting to that position requires some patience. It took Mike 13 weeks to go through the process of determining the proper amount of his deposit and starting to pay it through payroll allotment. 

Here's how Mike describes his deposit timeline:

Step 1: Sent Form RI 20-97 ( to request my estimated earnings during military service) along with my DD Form 214 (military service discharge showing my beginning and ending dates of active duty) to the Military Finance Center to find out the estimated amount of basic pay I received while serving on active duty. It took about four weeks to get a response, and the time can vary depending on the workload at the finance center when your request is received. If you are nearing your retirement date, you can note this on the form along with your desire to have your request expedited.

Step 2: Sent my DD Form 214 along with the completed Form RI-20-97 and application to make a service credit payment (SF 3108 for FERS and SF 2803 for CSRS) to my retirement benefits office. (In some agencies this is your benefits center or consolidated personnel office.) This was to find out how much I would have to pay to complete my military service credit deposit. There was a backlog at this office and my request took six weeks to process. 

Step 3: The benefits office returned my paperwork to me and I forwarded it to my payroll office with a letter requesting that a biweekly allotment be taken from my pay to start paying my military service deposit. It took three weeks before the allotment was taken out of my paycheck. 

The next steps were taken so I could complete my deposit prior to my retirement, which is planned for Dec. 31, 2019:

Step 4: I had been paying $155 through a pay allotment on the military service deposit amount for about 18 months. I decided to take an age-based Thrift Savings Plan in-service withdrawal from my account to cover the balance I owed. Since this is not a loan, I had to allow for income taxes to be withheld from this payment. The total time to fill out the TSP age-related withdraw form, fax it to the TSP and have the funds in my bank account was three weeks.

Step 5: Used "Pay.gov" to transfer the funds from my bank to my payroll provider. This only took two days.

Step 6: Received a "paid-in-full letter" from payroll after the funds were transferred. This took five days.

Step 7: Requested to have this letter from payroll filed in my electronic Official Personnel Folder as proof of my paid-up military service deposit. It took three days for me to figure out the process to do this and see the scanned document appear in my eOPF.

Here are the lessons of Mike's experience:

  • Start the process early. (If you pay your military service deposit within three years of your beginning date of federal service, you will not be charged any interest.) It will take some time to get your payroll allotment started.
  •  If you need to complete the deposit in less time, it's helpful to have started the process with payroll deductions of at least $25, which will make it easier to simply pay off the balance so that you can continue the process of retirement.
  • Employees who decide not to pay their military deposit in full before retiring or leaving government service can file a form and get what they've paid back.

Remember, your agency might have a slightly different process to complete your service credit deposit. Contact a retirement specialist at your agency who can provide instructions on how it works there.


September 19, 2019

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2019/09/paying-your-way-bigger-benefit/159981/

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

 

Correct.

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

 

thanks, 
You are saying: I just need to tell TSP to withdraw 2K from Roth, even I have 10K spread around S, C, and F. It doesn't need to be in G fund in order to withdraw.



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From: curtisakatoyo@yahoo.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

 
Its very simple. To answer your question:

"Let's say I have both Tradi and Roth with 40S, 50C, 10F. 
now I want to withdraw all from Roth, how do I accomplish it?  "

You would just process a Roth withdrawal.. you would specify a monetary amount, not a per fund % based amount.

Per example:

Trad you may have $15k spread across 40S, 50C, 10F

We will ignore Trad amounts here since we are curious about just Roth.

Roth you may have $10k spread across 40S, 50C, 10F

Lets say you want $2k from the Roth...

To further break it down:

That $2k Roth withdrawal spread across 40S, 50C, 10F is more like:

$800S, $1000C, $200F.

After the process, you still have $8k spread across 40S, 50C, 10F funds. But now their net values are lower since you withdrew the above amounts.

You can see the values you your Trad and Roth holdings, then using math, figure out how much you have in each fund based on your fund allocations.

Remember, withdrawals are not % based off a fund, but rather a monetary amount. 

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Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

Re: [TSP_Strategy] TSP Withdrawal Option Changes Effective Now

 

Sorry,  it I'm getting so confused. 

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 1:08 PM Lindalyc@aol.com [TSP_Strategy] <TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Let's say I have both Tradi and Roth with 40S, 50C, 10F. 
now I want to withdraw all from Roth, how do I accomplish it?  

will TSP auto selling S, C, F funds in Roth only and give cash to withdraw?
or I have to transfer S, C, F funds to G fund in Tradi and Roth, before telling TSP to withdraw all from Roth?

thanks


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That information is correct Mike, however the original question was "My question would be: can we choose to invest separately for Traditional and Roth...e.g. can I do 100% S fund in Traditional, but 100%G in Roth?"

At this time there is not the capability to specify where Trad and Roth go as far as "x" fund is concerned. So yes 5% match Trade and 100% Roth, both will still go in whichever fund you have designated.


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