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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

"What is the advisor making off the annuity and charging you for AUM? 
 
With 40 years of service, why do you need an annuity (without a COLA) laid on top of your COLAd pension and SS? What is the adviser's justification for this approach?"
 
I will have exactly 41 years come retirement day 9/30/25.   Have calculated my high 3 to be right over 140K and so monthly check is $5272.   Will start SS right away at age 62.4 years old approx.  $2565 per month
 
My TSP should have been much larger than it is as I cant count how many loans I've taken from it over the years.  In fact I have 2 outstanding ones now.   They've been pulling out 1000 bucks net money out of my check for quite a while now on 2  2year  loans totalling 50K and need to bump in an extra 500 per paycheck all the way to end of September to pay them off by retirement.    So right now it;'s only 700k.  For which I am moving 400K to this buffered ETF that my financial advisor will charge me .75 percent a year to manage for me.    It will be kept in conservative ETF's for now with the way things are looking and I can't lose money at all unless the bottom drops out.  I don't have on hand at the moment the details of this product but we meet again friday to finalize stuff.   I am putting 250K into the annuity and here are some details of it:
 
annuity from Athene:
Lifetime Income: $1,557/Month if starting lifetime income in one year (locks in this amount)
Current S&P 500 Strategy Cap of 5.5% (You make the first 5.5% the S&P 500 is up for the year) 
IF S&P has down year I lose nothing
If I run out of money I still get 1557 per month until I die.
If there is money left over after I die it goes to my heirs
Fee: 1%/Year that pays for lifetime income
 after 10 years I can get out of it if I want. 
 
There is an outstanding issue of getting my 4 years active duty in the Navy added to my federal retirement.  I spent 4 years shore duty in Naples, Italy.   After I got out and moved with my new wife who got orders to Naval Ordnance Station, Indian Head, MD,  I started my civil service career as gs9 computer specialist.   As you all know,  one must pay a certain amount of money to get those 4 years added to your federal retirement.  I thought maybe I might have done it way back then in MD back in 1988,  but couldn't remember.   All my official stuff with my current agency IRS,  shows these 4 years are there when it shows my SCD for retirement date.   But as I have recently learned, as I am learning alot about retirement,  that don't mean diddly if my personnel file at OPMdoesn't have the appropriate form on file ,  I think its SF1515, showing proof of made deposit,  then I will have to pay for it before I retire.   And yes, I am aware that the original charge was not much at all as I didn't earn a whole hell of alot as an E2-E3-E4.    But now today, with the interest added,  I've calculated it to be over 6K today.    Still a no brainer to pay for and I am prepared to pay for it if need be.   And yesterday, finally,  OPM has given my agency access to one's EOPF file.  So I finally got to look at my own file online and alas,  I don't see anything in it so I have opened a help ticket with my agency to get that all squared away. 
 
With me moving to Italy,  and it's not as easy as it might seem.   I have to apply for the Elective Residence Visa that is made for people like me who are retired and can show proof of all their income and I think the minimum is only 30K euros per year.   Anyways, just getting an appointment with your local Italian consulate is next to impossible as all available appointments are already filled many months out.   But one day recently on my 1000th attempt logging on to see if one opened upat the San Francisco consulate, I got lucky!  and have one now set for June 5th.    Which happens to be a perfect date for me because I have plans to visit Sardinia in May for about 3 weeks and do a recon of the whole island to see if this is really the place for me.   You see,   I was struck by a bolt of lightning about 4 months ago.  It was really a vivid dream and it laid out my destiny and specifically said it was Sardinia.   I have never been to Sardinia,  never seen pictures of it,  nothing.  I was only aware it was another Italian island in the med somewhere.   I looked it up on the Internet and my jaw dropped.    You see,  I love the ocean more than any place on earth and my whole being just releases all stress and I feel great inner peace.  So it was no wonder why this place was where my destiny was laid.    Having lived in Italy for 4 years long ago,  I remember all of it fondly, and one thing you learn there quickly,  is that these southern Italians are some of the friendliest people you could ever meet.    It is said Sardinians are much the same but it will be important for me to get up to speed on my Italian.   Am working with an app now.   Anyways,  one of the requirements to get this Visa is to show proof of at least a 1 year lease on a property over there signed and everything.    I know!   How can one possibly procure such a thing living here stateside?    Well now this planned trip serves a dual purpose.   I need to acquire a 1 year lease on some villa over there and it can't start until January 2026, my proposed date to move there.    But here's where I get lucky again,  (knock on wood),  I have been on the website Idealista daily looking at available homes for rent in Sardinia and the long term lease market is not a big thing there unfortunatley,, not alot to choose from.  But there was this one place close to the capital city Cagliari,  that looked interesting and I messaged the landlord and he replied and said he was an American too!   We got to talking and he is willing to sign such a lease for me and keep the place open for me for that 1 year!   of course I will meet with him in May and look at the place and hopefully this time next year,  I will be laying and playing on one of the many gorgeous beaches this island has.   Look at pictures folks.   Sardinia has the bluest clearest Mediterranean waters ever!   

After giving my financial advisor estimates on my income needs and budget for my proposed lifestyle in Italy,  we talked about getting another stream of income to buttress what I already get with FERS and SS.   I also plan to rent out my home here in Fresno, CA as a long term lease and hope to receive another 1500 net money for that,  as I do still pay for a mortgage on it.    With that added,  we have figured I can do the things I want to do in retirement and not  blow my TSP wad and actually watch it grow with great safety nets as needed.    This is not your ordinary annuity,  they have really vamped up the options in the annuity world, and this one looks solid to me.   I would love to hear anybody's take on all this
because I feel still a babe in the woods with financial managment at retirement.   The guy and his company are solid though.  I trust him after meeting about a dozen times now with suggesting where my money should go.  
 
You see I have big plans!   First and foremost I will sell most big ticket items I own here which include a couple vehicles, motorcycle, grand piano and boat.   That will give me a chunk of money into my savings account to move over there and start renting.    I plan to purchase my forever piano once there.   I'm talking 7' plus grand that is probably going to run 70 - 90K.   I will buy a small car and motorcycle.  And then after a year if things look good,  I will be looking into a cabin cruiser that I could sail around the whole island and live on for trips.   But ultimately,  if this is indeed where I want to live forever,  I will be buying my house on a hill overlooking the sea from my backyard with swimming pool.   I can afford to do that there.   Here is an example listing today of something that would make me a happy man for the rest of my life.   Oh,  I am bringing my two best friends with me as well,  Timber and Perris, my Decker Rat Terriers.   They are going to have the most fantastic life hitting beaches everyday.    
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

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In addition to SWVXX, I like to use USFR.  SWVXX is similar to a mutual fund or a TSP fund, so that if you sell shares you get that days closing price and you don't have the cash until the next day. 
With USFR, it's like a stock or ETF, so you can sell and instantly have access to the cash to buy anything else or withdraw the cash.  
 
I retired at the end of 2018...and finally rolled over my TSP to an IRA 3 years ago (to TD Ameritrade, which transferred to Schwab 2 years ago).  
I have no regrets in making that decision, though Schwab's online trading platform isn't as good as TDA's was. 
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[TSPStrategy] An Underground Journey to the Heart of Retirement Processing

[TSPStrategy] An Underground Journey to the Heart of Retirement Processing

Here's an old article posted on https://www.barfieldfinancial.com/new-blog/have-i-won-the-game.  If anybody hasn't found him yet, this site covers everything about government retirement and government work.  His recent email listed the below article.

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2019/09/underground-journey-heart-retirement-processing/160177/

An Underground Journey to the Heart of Retirement Processing

A behind-the-scenes look at OPM's Retirement Operations Center in Boyers, Pennsylvania.

What's on your bucket list? Some people want to visit the Taj Mahal, float along the canals of Venice in a gondola or hike to the summit of Mt. Kilimanjaro.

All of those experiences sound wonderful, but I also have long had a more mundane item on my list: touring the Retirement Operations Center of the Office of Personnel Management in Boyers, Pennsylvania.

Earlier this month, I got to check that item off my list. I went with a colleague of mine, Joni Montroy of Key Retirement Solutions (who specializes in postal employee retirement issues), to visit the vast underground facility. The tour was led by Ken Zawodny, OPM's associate director for retirement services; Nicholas Ashenden, deputy associate director for retirement operations at Boyers; and Robert Lorish, deputy assistant director. 

We traveled 220 feet beneath the earth's surface on a golf cart to one of the most secure locations in the country. After we received our security badges, we met our escorts to begin our three-hour visit to a place that we had heard stories about for our entire careers as retirement specialists.

We wanted to see firsthand how retirement claims are processed and find out if the tales we had heard were true. For example, we had been told of a mysterious courier system in which a red truck full of retirement files regularly went from Boyers to Breezewood, Pennsylvania. There it was met by a different red truck that transported the files the rest of the way to Washington. It turned out there is indeed a courier system to transport files that runs several times a week, but it apparently relies on standard trucks, not special red vehicles. 

We also learned that the office space is no longer a naturally cool 60 degrees, but has been upgraded with modern HVAC equipment to keep it a comfortable temperature for employees. We could leave our sweaters in the car. 

Despite the fact that there were no hidden secrets revealed on our tour, we were fascinated to learn more about what goes on in this cavernous space.

We learned that this is a place where federal employees go to work every day in an office space with rugged walls of blasted limestone that have been painted a bright silver. The floors are lined with 22,000 file cabinets, stacked 10 high and organized into rows, holding 400 million civilian retirement records. Laid end to end, these file cabinets would extend for 26 miles. Stacked on top of each other, they would rise four times higher than Mount Everest.

The history of the processing center dates back to 1902, when U.S. Steel discovered this storehouse of limestone about an hour north of Pittsburgh and began mining it for use in the production of steel. By 1950, mining operations had ceased and the company began using the caverns it had created to protect corporate records. By 1954, space was being rented to businesses and the U.S. government for records storage. In 1960, federal retirement operations moved from the Pension Building (now the National Building Museum) in Washington to Boyers. Today, the space is owned by Iron Mountain, a data and records management company.

In 1960, the facility had 30,000 square feet of dedicated storage space with 42 employees mostly working in jobs related to file storage. Today, there is 221,000 square feet of space with more than 500 employees, now mostly focused on the operational work involved in retirement processing. There are an additional 150 employees who work in the nearby town of East Butler at the OPM call center. Another 300 employees work for Retirement Services at OPM headquarters in Washington.

The workload at the Retirement Operations Center is staggering. Here are a few statistics on its processing activities in fiscal 2018:

  • 114,151 retirement claims
  • 93,969 survivor claims
  • 1,682,983 phone calls
  • 251,150 emails 
  • 84,000 changes of beneficiary designation 
  • 185,000 pieces of written correspondence
  • 4,036,540 Retirement Services Online activities

Retirees can use online services to to update their mailing addresses, change their federal and state income tax withholding designations, request a duplicate annuity booklet or print their Retirement Services ID card. The more retirees and their families turn to online services for basic needs, the quicker the team at Boyers can respond to more complex questions.

On our tour, we learned of many recent changes to improve the efficiency of the tedious process of retirement claims adjudication and responding to various other requests related to retirement benefits. Training sessions were underway in many areas we visited and retirement records were being maintained in an orderly and secure manner. 

We returned from our trip with a renewed sense of optimism that federal employees' retirement benefits are in good hands. Next week, I'll share what we learned about the step-by-step process of claims processing to help you understand what happens when you transition from a federal employee to a retiree. 

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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Thanks!

On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 1:24 PM Randy McNeill via groups.io <Rmcneill55=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
You could always do a Shwalb money market (swvxx) in place of G. I think it's yield is around 4%. 

On Feb 23, 2025, at 12:13 PM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


Thank you!

On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 1:04 PM Carlos Miranda via groups.io <mirandarts=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
You can buy US Treasuries. Go to search bar and type that in and it'll direct you 
Carlos Miranda

On Feb 21, 2025, at 11:51 AM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have a a Schwab IRA and am seriously thinking of rolling over all my TSP account to that. I have a mixture L, G, and C and S funds.I know there are no G fund equivalents.
Any suggestions about similar funds at Schwab?

 Probably I will need to sit down with a Schwab advisor.


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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

You could always do a Shwalb money market (swvxx) in place of G. I think it's yield is around 4%. 

On Feb 23, 2025, at 12:13 PM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


Thank you!

On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 1:04 PM Carlos Miranda via groups.io <mirandarts=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
You can buy US Treasuries. Go to search bar and type that in and it'll direct you 
Carlos Miranda

On Feb 21, 2025, at 11:51 AM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have a a Schwab IRA and am seriously thinking of rolling over all my TSP account to that. I have a mixture L, G, and C and S funds.I know there are no G fund equivalents.
Any suggestions about similar funds at Schwab?

 Probably I will need to sit down with a Schwab advisor.


Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Thank you!

On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 1:04 PM Carlos Miranda via groups.io <mirandarts=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
You can buy US Treasuries. Go to search bar and type that in and it'll direct you 
Carlos Miranda

On Feb 21, 2025, at 11:51 AM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have a a Schwab IRA and am seriously thinking of rolling over all my TSP account to that. I have a mixture L, G, and C and S funds.I know there are no G fund equivalents.
Any suggestions about similar funds at Schwab?

 Probably I will need to sit down with a Schwab advisor.


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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

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You can buy US Treasuries. Go to search bar and type that in and it'll direct you 
Carlos Miranda
Mirandarts@gmail.com

On Feb 21, 2025, at 11:51 AM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have a a Schwab IRA and am seriously thinking of rolling over all my TSP account to that. I have a mixture L, G, and C and S funds.I know there are no G fund equivalents.
Any suggestions about similar funds at Schwab?

 Probably I will need to sit down with a Schwab advisor.


Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

As long as you understand that you will be living in a foreign country with their rules, laws and rights, you should be fine. Remember that Italy is old world bureaucracy and miles of red tape. Be ready for frustration with gov offices. Other than that enjoy the beautiful country, food and wine.

On Sunday, February 23, 2025 at 07:58:15 AM MST, auragirl via groups.io <auragirl10=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


How exciting for you!  Is Sardinia the island that is making outsiders great deals on abandoned homes?   I wish you all the best.  

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 9:45 PM Richard Adams via groups.io <pianoman3131=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am retiring 9/30/25 as i took the fork.  I already have 40.5 years federal service and was planning in going out on 12/31/25 but how could i pass on this offer?  I am not on admin leave just yet as my agency is still scrambling i imagine dealing with a big dumpster of trash laid upon its feet.  Anyways,  i have been working with a fed financial advisor working out a game plan for my tsp money.  Next week i am pulling the bulk of my tsp out and splitting it with the bulk going into a buffered ETF and and the other portion into an annuity that has alot of pluses with it.   No, it doesnt disappear if i die but will go to my children,and it is protected from any bad stock years plus has a cap of making 10 percent on the good ones.  I have to wait 1 year to start receiving a monthly allottment of 1200 bucks for life even if it should run dry,  can pull up to 10 percent out in any given year and at 10 years i can do whatever i want with it.  Between my fers pension, SS, renting out my home while i retire to the island of Sardinia Italy, and this annuity,  i am planning on living a life of luxury.   




On Saturday, February 22, 2025, 5:50 PM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Pelosi did not have the power that Musk/Trump have and she would never have done that anyway.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 10:56 AM Paul Probst via groups.io <pep30339=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
If a windfall or wealth tax was going to be imposed on TSP accounts, Pelosi would have done it already.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM John via groups.io <johnlomack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
IMHO
If the government is going to confiscate retirement accounts, it's just as easy for them to suck the money out Schwab, Fidelity, or whatever.
If that happens, I've got dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession!

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

How exciting for you!  Is Sardinia the island that is making outsiders great deals on abandoned homes?   I wish you all the best.  

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 9:45 PM Richard Adams via groups.io <pianoman3131=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am retiring 9/30/25 as i took the fork.  I already have 40.5 years federal service and was planning in going out on 12/31/25 but how could i pass on this offer?  I am not on admin leave just yet as my agency is still scrambling i imagine dealing with a big dumpster of trash laid upon its feet.  Anyways,  i have been working with a fed financial advisor working out a game plan for my tsp money.  Next week i am pulling the bulk of my tsp out and splitting it with the bulk going into a buffered ETF and and the other portion into an annuity that has alot of pluses with it.   No, it doesnt disappear if i die but will go to my children,and it is protected from any bad stock years plus has a cap of making 10 percent on the good ones.  I have to wait 1 year to start receiving a monthly allottment of 1200 bucks for life even if it should run dry,  can pull up to 10 percent out in any given year and at 10 years i can do whatever i want with it.  Between my fers pension, SS, renting out my home while i retire to the island of Sardinia Italy, and this annuity,  i am planning on living a life of luxury.   




On Saturday, February 22, 2025, 5:50 PM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Pelosi did not have the power that Musk/Trump have and she would never have done that anyway.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 10:56 AM Paul Probst via groups.io <pep30339=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
If a windfall or wealth tax was going to be imposed on TSP accounts, Pelosi would have done it already.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM John via groups.io <johnlomack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
IMHO
If the government is going to confiscate retirement accounts, it's just as easy for them to suck the money out Schwab, Fidelity, or whatever.
If that happens, I've got dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession!

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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

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You certainly are in a very interesting position, Richard. Please keep us informed as this progresses. Specially, if you actually have to continue to work, and when your final pay was deposited.

Clearly, Musk, and even Trump, may not have the authority to make the deferred resignation offer, and federal workers who resign under this scheme may not get paid. Especially those who work for agencies that are not funded after March 14, 2025.

When it comes time for Congress to weigh in, why would they appropriate new funds to pay resigned employees for another 6-1/2 months?

The AFGE's list of FAQs about the deferred resignation offer can be found here. https://www.afge.org/link/deac73fb92b74052bc26fac44ef3c899.aspx


On Sun, Feb 23, 2025, 12:15 AM Thomas Wellock via groups.io <thomas.wellock=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
What is the advisor making off the annuity and charging you for AUM? 

With 40 years of service, why do you need an annuity (without a COLA) laid on top of your COLAd pension and SS? What is the adviser's justification for this approach?

Tom

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 10:45 PM Richard Adams via groups.io <pianoman3131=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am retiring 9/30/25 as i took the fork.  I already have 40.5 years federal service and was planning in going out on 12/31/25 but how could i pass on this offer?  I am not on admin leave just yet as my agency is still scrambling i imagine dealing with a big dumpster of trash laid upon its feet.  Anyways,  i have been working with a fed financial advisor working out a game plan for my tsp money.  Next week i am pulling the bulk of my tsp out and splitting it with the bulk going into a buffered ETF and and the other portion into an annuity that has alot of pluses with it.   No, it doesnt disappear if i die but will go to my children,and it is protected from any bad stock years plus has a cap of making 10 percent on the good ones.  I have to wait 1 year to start receiving a monthly allottment of 1200 bucks for life even if it should run dry,  can pull up to 10 percent out in any given year and at 10 years i can do whatever i want with it.  Between my fers pension, SS, renting out my home while i retire to the island of Sardinia Italy, and this annuity,  i am planning on living a life of luxury.   




On Saturday, February 22, 2025, 5:50 PM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Pelosi did not have the power that Musk/Trump have and she would never have done that anyway.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 10:56 AM Paul Probst via groups.io <pep30339=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
If a windfall or wealth tax was going to be imposed on TSP accounts, Pelosi would have done it already.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM John via groups.io <johnlomack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
IMHO
If the government is going to confiscate retirement accounts, it's just as easy for them to suck the money out Schwab, Fidelity, or whatever.
If that happens, I've got dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession!

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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

What is the advisor making off the annuity and charging you for AUM? 

With 40 years of service, why do you need an annuity (without a COLA) laid on top of your COLAd pension and SS? What is the adviser's justification for this approach?

Tom

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 10:45 PM Richard Adams via groups.io <pianoman3131=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am retiring 9/30/25 as i took the fork.  I already have 40.5 years federal service and was planning in going out on 12/31/25 but how could i pass on this offer?  I am not on admin leave just yet as my agency is still scrambling i imagine dealing with a big dumpster of trash laid upon its feet.  Anyways,  i have been working with a fed financial advisor working out a game plan for my tsp money.  Next week i am pulling the bulk of my tsp out and splitting it with the bulk going into a buffered ETF and and the other portion into an annuity that has alot of pluses with it.   No, it doesnt disappear if i die but will go to my children,and it is protected from any bad stock years plus has a cap of making 10 percent on the good ones.  I have to wait 1 year to start receiving a monthly allottment of 1200 bucks for life even if it should run dry,  can pull up to 10 percent out in any given year and at 10 years i can do whatever i want with it.  Between my fers pension, SS, renting out my home while i retire to the island of Sardinia Italy, and this annuity,  i am planning on living a life of luxury.   




On Saturday, February 22, 2025, 5:50 PM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Pelosi did not have the power that Musk/Trump have and she would never have done that anyway.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 10:56 AM Paul Probst via groups.io <pep30339=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
If a windfall or wealth tax was going to be imposed on TSP accounts, Pelosi would have done it already.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM John via groups.io <johnlomack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
IMHO
If the government is going to confiscate retirement accounts, it's just as easy for them to suck the money out Schwab, Fidelity, or whatever.
If that happens, I've got dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession!

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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

I am retiring 9/30/25 as i took the fork.  I already have 40.5 years federal service and was planning in going out on 12/31/25 but how could i pass on this offer?  I am not on admin leave just yet as my agency is still scrambling i imagine dealing with a big dumpster of trash laid upon its feet.  Anyways,  i have been working with a fed financial advisor working out a game plan for my tsp money.  Next week i am pulling the bulk of my tsp out and splitting it with the bulk going into a buffered ETF and and the other portion into an annuity that has alot of pluses with it.   No, it doesnt disappear if i die but will go to my children,and it is protected from any bad stock years plus has a cap of making 10 percent on the good ones.  I have to wait 1 year to start receiving a monthly allottment of 1200 bucks for life even if it should run dry,  can pull up to 10 percent out in any given year and at 10 years i can do whatever i want with it.  Between my fers pension, SS, renting out my home while i retire to the island of Sardinia Italy, and this annuity,  i am planning on living a life of luxury.   




On Saturday, February 22, 2025, 5:50 PM, Herb Black via groups.io <blackht71=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Pelosi did not have the power that Musk/Trump have and she would never have done that anyway.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 10:56 AM Paul Probst via groups.io <pep30339=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
If a windfall or wealth tax was going to be imposed on TSP accounts, Pelosi would have done it already.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM John via groups.io <johnlomack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
IMHO
If the government is going to confiscate retirement accounts, it's just as easy for them to suck the money out Schwab, Fidelity, or whatever.
If that happens, I've got dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession!

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Pelosi did not have the power that Musk/Trump have and she would never have done that anyway.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 10:56 AM Paul Probst via groups.io <pep30339=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
If a windfall or wealth tax was going to be imposed on TSP accounts, Pelosi would have done it already.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM John via groups.io <johnlomack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
IMHO
If the government is going to confiscate retirement accounts, it's just as easy for them to suck the money out Schwab, Fidelity, or whatever.
If that happens, I've got dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession!

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Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

Re: [TSPStrategy] I am retired and afraid of Musk/ Trump raiding our TSP accounts

If a windfall or wealth tax was going to be imposed on TSP accounts, Pelosi would have done it already.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM John via groups.io <johnlomack=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
IMHO
If the government is going to confiscate retirement accounts, it's just as easy for them to suck the money out Schwab, Fidelity, or whatever.
If that happens, I've got dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession!

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